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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://sixdegreesfromdave.com/11/2006/07/25/comment-page-1/#comment-1418</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Look good...&lt;/strong&gt;

               I believe the technical term is &quot;Oops!&quot;
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<p>               I believe the technical term is &#8220;Oops!&#8221;<br />
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		<title>By: Linked Intelligence - The smart source for all things LinkedIn&#8482; &#187; LinkedIn Daily 2006-09-01</title>
		<link>http://sixdegreesfromdave.com/11/2006/07/25/comment-page-1/#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator>Linked Intelligence - The smart source for all things LinkedIn&#8482; &#187; LinkedIn Daily 2006-09-01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dave Mendoza</title>
		<link>http://sixdegreesfromdave.com/11/2006/07/25/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Mendoza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Konstantin, the point is missed that regardless of how well a relationship is established; inevitably there will be a situation where the natue of the nature of the relationship changes: loyalties are questioned, a work ethos evolves for the worse, or skill sets become out-of-date. Surely we can all agree that friendships, marriages, and worker relationships can alter for the worse. In work environments theÂ affection is communicated as aÂ recommendation, butÂ in the case of office arrangements, a \&quot;divorce\&quot;Â is aÂ termination. The office environment is not a static one, it is dynamic.

Management of endorsements should be equally accessible by both parties to allow for modification(s) - and more specifically, deletionÂ as deemedÂ warranted byÂ the endorser.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Konstantin, the point is missed that regardless of how well a relationship is established; inevitably there will be a situation where the natue of the nature of the relationship changes: loyalties are questioned, a work ethos evolves for the worse, or skill sets become out-of-date. Surely we can all agree that friendships, marriages, and worker relationships can alter for the worse. In work environments theÂ affection is communicated as aÂ recommendation, butÂ in the case of office arrangements, a \&#8221;divorce\&#8221;Â is aÂ termination. The office environment is not a static one, it is dynamic.</p>
<p>Management of endorsements should be equally accessible by both parties to allow for modification(s) &#8211; and more specifically, deletionÂ as deemedÂ warranted byÂ the endorser.</p>
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		<title>By: Konstantin Guericke</title>
		<link>http://sixdegreesfromdave.com/11/2006/07/25/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Konstantin Guericke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

Recipient control over endorsements is by design. We want people to be careful when giving endorsements, so they should only be given when you know the person for a while and don&#039;t expect to have to take the endorsement back.

Endorsements are not the same as true references--they are there for screening purposes. Like other candidate-provided references, they tend to be positive. But having them upfront makes it more convenient to tap this information and used it at the front end of the cycle. 

A skilled interviewer can probably get some more info on the phone from those references, but the most meaningful references are those NOT provided by the candidate. That&#039;s what LinkedIn&#039;s reference search is for: www.linkedin.com/rs.

Business and Pro account holders also have the &quot;one-click reference&quot; link on profiles--those also yield off-resume references. We&#039;ve received some excellent feedback on this capability. Many people understand the value of backdoor references, but it is rarely done because it is so time-consuming to find them and get the cooperation of the person who has worked with the candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>Recipient control over endorsements is by design. We want people to be careful when giving endorsements, so they should only be given when you know the person for a while and don&#8217;t expect to have to take the endorsement back.</p>
<p>Endorsements are not the same as true references&#8211;they are there for screening purposes. Like other candidate-provided references, they tend to be positive. But having them upfront makes it more convenient to tap this information and used it at the front end of the cycle. </p>
<p>A skilled interviewer can probably get some more info on the phone from those references, but the most meaningful references are those NOT provided by the candidate. That&#8217;s what LinkedIn&#8217;s reference search is for: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/rs" rel="nofollow">http://www.linkedin.com/rs</a>.</p>
<p>Business and Pro account holders also have the &#8220;one-click reference&#8221; link on profiles&#8211;those also yield off-resume references. We&#8217;ve received some excellent feedback on this capability. Many people understand the value of backdoor references, but it is rarely done because it is so time-consuming to find them and get the cooperation of the person who has worked with the candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Mendoza</title>
		<link>http://sixdegreesfromdave.com/11/2006/07/25/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Mendoza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I observed the hollowness of several endorsements firsthand and I have been far more careful in making assumptions based upon what I read when I am asked for assistance by a peer. 

It isn&#039;t simply whether the endorsement was sincere when it originated, but whether circumstances themselves have since altered the perception/reputation of the individual in question.  Linkedin doesn&#039;t allow us to retract our endorsements, unless we agree to completely disconnect our connection with the individual - a nuclear option so to speak. The alternative adds insult to injury.  I&#039;d prefer a silent release - allowing us to retract without a whimper, yet maintain the connection as an option. 

Endorsements should reflect life circumstances to retain relevance. All parties should have the means to part ways as friendships and professional relationships tend to do. At present, only the recipient of the endorsement holds authority over the endorsement. In fact, only the recipient has the ability &quot;Management Endorsements.&quot;  Upon reviewing our endorsements we are instructed to change which endorsements appear with the checkboxes provided, as we deem fit. http://www.linkedin.com/endorsements?display Logic demands that both the endorser and the recipient should have equal authority to designate whether the endorsement is available to the viewing public.  An endorser should have as much right to retract an endorsement as a recipient does to post or pull an endorsement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I observed the hollowness of several endorsements firsthand and I have been far more careful in making assumptions based upon what I read when I am asked for assistance by a peer. </p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t simply whether the endorsement was sincere when it originated, but whether circumstances themselves have since altered the perception/reputation of the individual in question.  Linkedin doesn&#8217;t allow us to retract our endorsements, unless we agree to completely disconnect our connection with the individual &#8211; a nuclear option so to speak. The alternative adds insult to injury.  I&#8217;d prefer a silent release &#8211; allowing us to retract without a whimper, yet maintain the connection as an option. </p>
<p>Endorsements should reflect life circumstances to retain relevance. All parties should have the means to part ways as friendships and professional relationships tend to do. At present, only the recipient of the endorsement holds authority over the endorsement. In fact, only the recipient has the ability &#8220;Management Endorsements.&#8221;  Upon reviewing our endorsements we are instructed to change which endorsements appear with the checkboxes provided, as we deem fit. <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/endorsements?display" rel="nofollow">http://www.linkedin.com/endorsements?display</a> Logic demands that both the endorser and the recipient should have equal authority to designate whether the endorsement is available to the viewing public.  An endorser should have as much right to retract an endorsement as a recipient does to post or pull an endorsement.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Thomson</title>
		<link>http://sixdegreesfromdave.com/11/2006/07/25/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave
Good post and important topic.  

Unfortunately, social networking services have spawned a rash of undeserved endorsements.  I like to think that good endorsements are like heartbeats... we&#039;re each born with only so many of them, so you&#039;d better not use them up too quickly.  

Looking forward to more posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave<br />
Good post and important topic.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, social networking services have spawned a rash of undeserved endorsements.  I like to think that good endorsements are like heartbeats&#8230; we&#8217;re each born with only so many of them, so you&#8217;d better not use them up too quickly.  </p>
<p>Looking forward to more posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob McIntosh</title>
		<link>http://sixdegreesfromdave.com/11/2006/07/25/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob McIntosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - Nice post and slick looking page.

Let me be a naysayer and look at the darker side of LinkedIn (or any other tool) endorsements. This has briefly been touched on but let me go down the rabbit hole a little further with this thought.
Just because someone leaves an endorsement saying someone is the &#039;antâ€™s pants&#039; does that necessarily make it so. Human beings for years have mastered the art of spin and we see instances of authors asking for endorsements on the back pages of their books to drive the perception of credibility by the author and their subject, but after reading some of these books you realize that it did not live up to the hype of the endorsements. 
Could enough mutual collective hype by a consortium of individuals looking to leverage such a tool for self promotional purposes, tilt external perception to far away from someoneâ€™s actual real abilities? 
When we boil it down the real reason that we ask for endorsements (like the back cover of a book) is to make people feel more comfortable buying that product. The product in this case is the person and in the majority of cases the actual end transaction is a job (be it FTE or contractor services).
Not trying to start another Area51 alien conspiracy theory but just offering up another angle on the subject :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; Nice post and slick looking page.</p>
<p>Let me be a naysayer and look at the darker side of LinkedIn (or any other tool) endorsements. This has briefly been touched on but let me go down the rabbit hole a little further with this thought.<br />
Just because someone leaves an endorsement saying someone is the &#8216;antâ€™s pants&#8217; does that necessarily make it so. Human beings for years have mastered the art of spin and we see instances of authors asking for endorsements on the back pages of their books to drive the perception of credibility by the author and their subject, but after reading some of these books you realize that it did not live up to the hype of the endorsements.<br />
Could enough mutual collective hype by a consortium of individuals looking to leverage such a tool for self promotional purposes, tilt external perception to far away from someoneâ€™s actual real abilities?<br />
When we boil it down the real reason that we ask for endorsements (like the back cover of a book) is to make people feel more comfortable buying that product. The product in this case is the person and in the majority of cases the actual end transaction is a job (be it FTE or contractor services).<br />
Not trying to start another Area51 alien conspiracy theory but just offering up another angle on the subject <img src='http://sixdegreesfromdave.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Krista Bradford</title>
		<link>http://sixdegreesfromdave.com/11/2006/07/25/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Krista Bradford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thoughtful post and well put.  One does have to be careful. I think it is a better practice to have a handful of LinkeIn endorsements from some big fish rather than lots of little guppies . . .the other point being that it imposes a kind of artifice where at a certain point it becomes meaningless.  I mean, there are lots of reasons one provides endorsements that may have very little to do with performance. Rather, it may be because that person is a friend of someone that the endorser is trying to do business with, or maybe the person owes the other a favor, or maybe they work together and don&#039;t want to risk alienating a co-worker, or maybe the endorsee is a jerk that the endorser is vouching for to help that jerk get a job somewhere else . . .I had a fascinating conversation about that very topic with friend and Internet thought leader David Weinberger, author of the Cluetrain Manifesto,  who made just those points. 
http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thoughtful post and well put.  One does have to be careful. I think it is a better practice to have a handful of LinkeIn endorsements from some big fish rather than lots of little guppies . . .the other point being that it imposes a kind of artifice where at a certain point it becomes meaningless.  I mean, there are lots of reasons one provides endorsements that may have very little to do with performance. Rather, it may be because that person is a friend of someone that the endorser is trying to do business with, or maybe the person owes the other a favor, or maybe they work together and don&#8217;t want to risk alienating a co-worker, or maybe the endorsee is a jerk that the endorser is vouching for to help that jerk get a job somewhere else . . .I had a fascinating conversation about that very topic with friend and Internet thought leader David Weinberger, author of the Cluetrain Manifesto,  who made just those points.<br />
<a href="http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Smith</title>
		<link>http://sixdegreesfromdave.com/11/2006/07/25/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post, D-man.  The importance of personal brand and the credibility associated with our &quot;name&quot; (which, at times, is all we have), is invaluable.

If so, it needs to be treated as the &quot;precious jewel&quot; that it is. 

Thanks for the reminder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, D-man.  The importance of personal brand and the credibility associated with our &#8220;name&#8221; (which, at times, is all we have), is invaluable.</p>
<p>If so, it needs to be treated as the &#8220;precious jewel&#8221; that it is. </p>
<p>Thanks for the reminder.</p>
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		<title>By: karen m</title>
		<link>http://sixdegreesfromdave.com/11/2006/07/25/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>karen m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,
congrats! I have always enjoyed reading our chit chats in emails and have been impressed with the way you always articulate.

It will be fun and interesting to see your thoughts in the blog.

Karen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,<br />
congrats! I have always enjoyed reading our chit chats in emails and have been impressed with the way you always articulate.</p>
<p>It will be fun and interesting to see your thoughts in the blog.</p>
<p>Karen</p>
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